Comments on: Points for National Bodies (NBs) on OpenXML http://doyoulovems.com/archives/62 Thu, 09 Sep 2010 10:44:27 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2.1 By: John Scholes http://doyoulovems.com/archives/62#comment-121 John Scholes Fri, 24 Aug 2007 15:18:22 +0000 http://doyoulovems.com/archives/62#comment-121 Yes, you are right. It may be difficult for a NB to decide on its position. I know nothing about the rules or precedents on the Dutch committee. But the UK NB (BSI) also has a "consensus" rule. In the BSI case, consensus has never been that clearly defined, but it is certainly not the same as unanimity. In BSI it is possible for a minority to be overruled provided it is a small minority. It is unfortunate when there is a consensus rule, and on a particular vote, there is a majority, but no consensus, because that can lead to "Abstain". But it is up to each NB to settle its own procedure. Yes, you are right. It may be difficult for a NB to decide on its position.

I know nothing about the rules or precedents on the Dutch committee. But the UK NB (BSI) also has a “consensus” rule. In the BSI case, consensus has never been that clearly defined, but it is certainly not the same as unanimity. In BSI it is possible for a minority to be overruled provided it is a small minority.

It is unfortunate when there is a consensus rule, and on a particular vote, there is a majority, but no consensus, because that can lead to “Abstain”. But it is up to each NB to settle its own procedure.

]]> By: Rob Weemhoff http://doyoulovems.com/archives/62#comment-119 Rob Weemhoff Fri, 24 Aug 2007 11:10:36 +0000 http://doyoulovems.com/archives/62#comment-119 I am talking about a NB committee. The Dutch committee has a consensus rule, (in effect not distinguishable from unanimity). My point is that you can not address such a committee as a single entity with one motive and intention. I am talking about a NB committee. The Dutch committee has a consensus rule, (in effect not distinguishable from unanimity).
My point is that you can not address such a committee as a single entity with one motive and intention.

]]> By: John Scholes http://doyoulovems.com/archives/62#comment-114 John Scholes Thu, 23 Aug 2007 13:18:46 +0000 http://doyoulovems.com/archives/62#comment-114 Sorry, you have lost me here. Are you talking about a NB committee? The snag there is that each country tends to have its own procedures (which it is fully entitled to do). The UK BSI procedures are quite different from the US INCITS procedures for example. Sorry, you have lost me here. Are you talking about a NB committee? The snag there is that each country tends to have its own procedures (which it is fully entitled to do). The UK BSI procedures are quite different from the US INCITS procedures for example.

]]> By: Rob Weemhoff http://doyoulovems.com/archives/62#comment-111 Rob Weemhoff Wed, 22 Aug 2007 15:05:21 +0000 http://doyoulovems.com/archives/62#comment-111 While your observations are very to the point, it looks like you fail to recognize that a NB SC34 mirror committee comprises representatives from both sides. While your observations are very to the point, it looks like you fail to recognize that a NB SC34 mirror committee comprises representatives from both sides.

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